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Total Newbie
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| There seems to be a big fuss about the fact that Ndoors finally implemented a merc which needs a IM recruitment item.
Will everyone just chill out already? of course everyones scared by the price its gonna cost, but hey lets take a look at dj heart, CBOH and spartan shield? they cost hands full of dough too.
and yeah, seeing how absolutely pwning this merc is, i like the fact they made it somewhat exclusive
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King of Darkness
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| ^ It's because people are assuming the Druid items are IM-only when they aren't. It's just NDoors finally giving the players the option to either pay money or grind for it. |
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Total Newbie
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| Promethus - 11/15/2009 1:33 PM
^ It's because people are assuming the Druid items are IM-only when they aren't. It's just NDoors finally giving the players the option to either pay money or grind for it.
You really sure there will be a split possibilty of obtaining it? Cuz if so its drop rate will be as low as RayWilliamJohnsons length lol xD |
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Philanthropist
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| Lolcat - 11/15/2009 1:38 PM
Promethus - 11/15/2009 1:33 PM
^ It's because people are assuming the Druid items are IM-only when they aren't. It's just NDoors finally giving the players the option to either pay money or grind for it.
You really sure there will be a split possibilty of obtaining it? Cuz if so its drop rate will be as low as RayWilliamJohnsons length lol xD
It is confirmed, theres gonna be a new dung called Coyote Valley, where lv 100 players can go in, but the recommended lv is 120, seems like the mobs there hits as hard as trucks. And its not a guild dungeon, nation, or ind, but a dungeon that brings a new system, that allows 3 parties in. I guess the mobs will drop the skill books, and the rewards will be that quest items. Oh, and they key can be obtained at Pointry, as always.
Edited by Zaikuya 11/15/2009 1:42 PM
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King of Darkness
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| ^ Based on what someone said, yeah. Supposedly, Druid quest items = No trade, so they put it in IM boxes for the impatient people. I mean, you need, at minimum, a 3 man team full of 120s to even attempt to survive in the dungeon.
Edited by Promethus 11/15/2009 1:44 PM
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Night Ruler
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Just a buffed up viking with attack buff for allies. |
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King of Darkness
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| ^ Ya know, that skill description seems slightly misleading. The skill makes it seem like it only prevents normal attacks from activating and doesn't really freeze a mob like an NVIK does. |
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Night Ruler
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| Alloy - 11/15/2009 2:20 PM
Just a buffed up viking with attack buff for allies.
waht's the buff do? and is it passive? |
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Night Ruler
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| This merc doesn't really trouble me much besides the originality of freeze. I'm worried about packing 5 skills into the Empress merc and have two of them being HG/Silence. You got some mercs with only 1 skill on the other hand :/.
Boobear - 11/15/2009 2:30 PM
waht's the buff do? and is it passive?
Increase attack and crit rate, Not passive.
Edited by Alloy 11/15/2009 2:37 PM
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Night Ruler
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| Alloy - 11/15/2009 2:34 PM
This merc doesn't really trouble me much besides the originality of freeze. I'm worried about packing 5 skills into the Empress merc and have two of them being HG/Silence. You got some mercs with only 1 skill on the other hand :/.
Boobear - 11/15/2009 2:30 PM
waht's the buff do? and is it passive?
Increase attack and crit rate, Not passive.
sorry to spam and ask again like this, what's the duration and CD? and the buff pattern? like column? row? single target? |
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Philanthropist
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| where is the place where it says it's item mall though? i had a korean friend look for info on druid yesterday and he said he didnt see anywhere where it said druid was item mall related |
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Monster Expert
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| I'm just not looking forward to leveling up another merc (pending on its utility), but it appears to be a direct replacement for viking. |
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King of Darkness
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| Kamixtli - 11/15/2009 2:47 PM
where is the place where it says it's item mall though? i had a korean friend look for info on druid yesterday and he said he didnt see anywhere where it said druid was item mall related
http://atlantica.hangame.com/center/news/news_view.asp?list_seq=282...
It lists quest items for the Druid as a possible IM box reward.
Also, there's a thread that MoonApollo started that has a lot more detail. |
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Night Ruler
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Location: Florida, USA | Lolcat - 11/15/2009 3:24 PM
There seems to be a big fuss about the fact that Ndoors finally implemented a merc which needs a IM recruitment item.
Will everyone just chill out already? of course everyones scared by the price its gonna cost, but hey lets take a look at dj heart, CBOH and spartan shield? they cost hands full of dough too.
and yeah, seeing how absolutely pwning this merc is, i like the fact they made it somewhat exclusive
Let the flame wars begin!
Totally off subject but since ya like flames (not really one but whatever). YOu seem to know an awful lot about the game (prices and so forth) for a person with 2 posts who came in here and started a thread about a super high new merc...lol I have recently heard that several appologetics like to make multiple accounts to answer themselves and agree with themselves while they attack so called "qqers"...can I ask what made you finally decide to create a forum account and jump into the fray or are you someone we already know?..lol
But to answer your ques. For me and those I know, it's just another "yawn" quest meant for a very few 2-3% of the players. Most of the new content (New viking quest was ok, mute shaman, prophet as well) is pretty much "nothing to look forward to" due to the fact they are so unbalanced and push item mall or whatever. Like the new spearman town quest, requiring multiple trips into mauseleum guild dungeon (And not just the first floor). The "new merc" is just another same-same. IMO. They "Add stuff" but the stuff they add rarely means anything for the vast majority (like 95%) of players.
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Night Ruler
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| Russario - 11/15/2009 2:52 PM
Lolcat - 11/15/2009 3:24 PM
There seems to be a big fuss about the fact that Ndoors finally implemented a merc which needs a IM recruitment item.
Will everyone just chill out already? of course everyones scared by the price its gonna cost, but hey lets take a look at dj heart, CBOH and spartan shield? they cost hands full of dough too.
and yeah, seeing how absolutely pwning this merc is, i like the fact they made it somewhat exclusive
Let the flame wars begin!
Totally off subject but since ya like flames (not really one but whatever ). YOu seem to know an awful lot about the game (prices and so forth ) for a person with 2 posts who came in here and started a thread about a super high new merc...lol I have recently heard that several appologetics like to make multiple accounts to answer themselves and agree with themselves while they attack so called "qqers"...can I ask what made you finally decide to create a forum account and jump into the fray or are you someone we already know?..lol
and it could also be someone like me who went overheated against a smartass dissing the whole Macedon server and was banned from
forums, to only recently make a new account |
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Motivated
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| very high dex for an axe merce..... |
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Gambler
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| corpsebride - 11/16/2009 8:04 AM
very high dex for an axe merce.....
must be the lil boy has fast legs? |
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Gambler
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| whats his ap gain? |
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Gambler
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| Russario - 11/16/2009 7:52 AM
But to answer your ques. For me and those I know, it's just another "yawn" quest meant for a very few 2-3% of the players. Most of the new content (New viking quest was ok, mute shaman, prophet as well) is pretty much "nothing to look forward to" due to the fact they are so unbalanced and push item mall or whatever. Like the new spearman town quest, requiring multiple trips into mauseleum guild dungeon (And not just the first floor). The "new merc" is just another same-same. IMO. They "Add stuff" but the stuff they add rarely means anything for the vast majority (like 95%) of players.
So what do you propose they add ? |
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Night Ruler
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| The reason people get mad over the druid is because everyone gets mad at any new release  Also some people think the merc is IM only. |
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Night Ruler
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Location: Florida, USA | juls - 11/15/2009 5:58 PM
Russario - 11/16/2009 7:52 AM
But to answer your ques. For me and those I know, it's just another "yawn" quest meant for a very few 2-3% of the players. Most of the new content (New viking quest was ok, mute shaman, prophet as well) is pretty much "nothing to look forward to" due to the fact they are so unbalanced and push item mall or whatever. Like the new spearman town quest, requiring multiple trips into mauseleum guild dungeon (And not just the first floor). The "new merc" is just another same-same. IMO. They "Add stuff" but the stuff they add rarely means anything for the vast majority (like 95%) of players.
So what do you propose they add ?
Well, pretty much every game i've ever played adds content system wide over time for each sub-class of their player base to try achieve an overall player satisfaction = more support, donations, im purchases or subscription/renewals (whichever according to their game-support system). In this game (although many try to force the idea that there is only 1 way to play = eventaul game death) there are many types of players like there are in every game. Casuals, loners, chattys, socialites, crafters, money obsessers, pure warriors (enjoys grinding and PVE), PVP fanatics, care bears, griefers, ect ect.
Although since the nerfing/IM campaign (Which is NDoors excusive) the content meant to offset that (Which is KAO exclusive) has been geared towards a very very limited potion of the playerbase (this is because KAO's market is Korean and they are a very exclusive regional market). This is why NDoors nerfing and IM campagn has caused so much trouble for this game, because the content is so limited from KAO that it cannot offset what NDoors has done with the nerfing/im pushes.
BUt back to your ques, unfortunatly NDoors has nothing to do with providing content so we are restricted to content meant for the Korean regional market and Hangames really doesn't care about the international market, but if i had my wish, there would be content added for all areas of the playerbase. Quests that do not require participation in nation of Guild dungeons for example, or quests that are aimed at the different types of players...the only other option would be to make the content we do have not so rediculously difficult (which IS Ndoors doing with their overpowering and IM pushes.) SO basically, since neither hangames is gonna make international content, and since NDoors obviously isn't gonna stop the im push/nerfing the majority are stuck between a rock and a hard place...lol AO I'm afraid is just one of those games that is so regionalized in it's creation (For Korean only market) that is will not last long in the international market as the imblanaces are just too great. Trying to balance NDoors greed with Hangames "made for Korea regional players" is the reason the game has turned so far downhill. Only choice is for NDoors to make the KAO content more accessible for their market/playerbase which they DID do for the first 7 months. They then stopped and reversed that "way" and boom the game sank...will they go back to the original "way" they were presenting the game?..who knows.
Edited by Russario 11/15/2009 5:54 PM
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Cursed Swordsman
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| Mythril - 11/15/2009 7:45 PM
The reason people get mad over the druid is because everyone gets mad at any new release Also some people think the merc is IM only.
The second part is why people are getting very angry. It's good to know there is a real way of getting him (through that new dungeon). Thanks for that info. |
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King of Darkness
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| ^@Russairo
*Poke*
Do these work as content expansion?
Satisfy PVE and PVP: http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view....
Satisfy the 'collectors': http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view....
Satisfy the Guild people: http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view.... ; http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view....
Satisfy the crafters: http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view.... ; http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view....
Satisfy the casuals: http://atlantica.ndoorsgames.com/center/ATForum/forums/thread-view.... ;From rusen:
One of the biggest Problem with Atlantica right now is inflation imo
and best way to address this money sinks, but we need alot more
and fun money sinks so what I would change/add is Vegas,
here's my idea (not necessarily original in any means).
Las Vegas (town) (world biggest money sink, just like the real thing lol)
- 100k to tp (im 106 so just scale it from there depending on lvl)
-similar to Rome
-everything here requires you to buy non-refundable, non-tradable Chips/coins
I've thought up off 3 attractions to get ppl to spend their moneys, you guys can help
with more ideas.
casino
-slots, blackjack poker
-play against friends play against the house
-I'm trying to think of a way to make these games more atlantica based (cuz otherwise
why not just play online poker lol) as in a gimmick using the mercs or something, but
haven't found any just yet.
- get coins/chips from winning
-coins and chips can be used to buy scrolls and equipment etc.
-coins essentially cost more than just buying equip from market
--basically this prevents ppl from just buying the coins and getting the equipment
and instead actually trying to gamble for them
Fight Night
- basically WkC but with arena action on the side
- tournament based pvp like fl, except armor/weapons/lvl don't factor in, so lvl 10 jani deals
same damage as lvl 100 jani(not counting shooting stance)
--basically makes the betting more "fair" as in no ones gonna just bet the higher lvl each time and
take home a butload of money(remember money sink ppl house always wins xD)
- Betting(of course, it's Vegas) You finally get to bet on who will win between Harari and Inmolation
-- Betting occurs before every match and you can bet on each individual fight not just the overall
outcome
- participation fee to enter tournament (money sink =p)
- participants gets coins/chips/tournament points? (instead of money, money sink) to purchase some good items
from the vegas stores
- top 3 get trophies that do something (like cakes maybe?)... ya haven't thought it through completely yet lol
- Make it after every other fl? twice a day? Not sure how long it'll last usually so that'll determine how often
-- theres always the option for mini tournaments or w/e so you can squeeze it more per day
Gauntlet
- like training center, fight one enemy after another
-- preferably this will be solo with one enemy each time, not sure how team would work out
- enemies are similar to those from Rome arena, except you don't get to choose which one you fight
-- enemies will go from each 3-4 man formation to full formations with better ai (more than just pew pew will beat the
stronger guys)
-- their levels will scale with you, if you're lvl 50 you get lvl 40-60 enemies, lvl 100 - lvl 97-105 enemies
- each enemy team you beat you get coins/chips/points
- you go until you you either die or time runs out ( an hr? half an hr?)
Rewards
- like I said if you purchase the gears straight up from the coins you'll lose money, which will encourage ppl to gamble
- if we need more of money sink, we can have Fight Night give points instead of chips and have a different vendor for
their items and the same for Gauntlet
- main incentive for ppl to use money sinks is if they are fun or good rewards, so here Are some ideas for rewards.
- lvl 110 special weapons (tradable? non-tradable) similar to shotguns, and sdf, damage and stats lower than dg gear,
but proc makes up for them.
- scrolls? ( new scrolls, i know if they put scrolls out then they lose money in IM so this might not be probable)
- special armors and gear for all lvls? ( similar things might happen like when jackpot first came out and ppl used indie gear
instead of craft and that hurt crafters so make them harder to get alot of coins needed / non-tradable)
Edited by Promethus 11/15/2009 6:06 PM
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Gambler
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| Im not mad about the druid itself (except for the name) but I really think that after this set of B mercs they should take some time to give all those mercs that only have one skill more skills. It makes things too predictable when there are mercs with just one magic, they should really give all at least two. |
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Cursed Swordsman
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| tkdyo - 11/15/2009 9:47 PM
Im not mad about the druid itself (except for the name) but I really think that after this set of B mercs they should take some time to give all those mercs that only have one skill more skills. It makes things too predictable when there are mercs with just one magic, they should really give all at least two.
Umm...look at that screenshot of him. He has entangle and one other skill with the bear picture. That is 1+1 = 2 skills. Not bad in my opinion. |
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So whts up with everyone getting mad over druid?
