sasoras - 11/6/2009 8:50 AM

Can't we just think they both suck to varying degrees and leave it at that, neither of the people, nor the nations they belong to have good reputations.

Their both pretty much demi-evil QQ'ers of thebes.

The only thing that ppl can remotely argue about is who is the lesser evil of the 2 evils.

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 11:25 AM

Ok guys id like to say to start with im not a on anyones side here. Im strictly neutral but i would like to show both sides. I hear all to much of how bad stumps is but i feel much biased is around here. I am going give cold blunt facts here. I would like to ask those not whether they like stumps or not but to look at whats happened and to see whether we can solely blame 1 person. Ok here r some of the facts i remember both sides had a dealing with:

1. Noctus (and others) called 420 hitler fanboys- FACT
2. BloodyStumps continually spams forums knowing some people hate his phrases- FACT
3. Covenant continually bid on Kyoto currently 420s only town- FACT
4. BloodyStumps yet again spams forum- FACT
5. Covenant continually tries to war 420 till it dies- FACT
6. BloodyStumps then tries to drain covenants guild points- FACT

and in between both sides hurled KJs around the place. my point is just because stumps isnt liked doesnt mean we say he caused all the trouble. Both sides are equally idiotic at times and more importantly if everyone says to have bloodystumps banned then ud have to also ban those from covenant who caused trouble too from a logical standpoint.
So i wish to say the best thing that can be done is for both sides to leave each other alone and just enjoy the game

(if i missed any issues be sure to post them)

AMxPM - 11/6/2009 12:26 PM


Bias? You've never talked to the guy.

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 3:38 PM



Umm actually ive been in both their nations at times and talked to both and all parties. I dont say anything i dont have proof for! they all ***** as much as each other! Plus that doesnt detract from the fact they both have done things wrong and we cannot penalise 1 without doing so to the other

AMxPM - 11/6/2009 12:48 PM


You're only looking at it from a general sense. BloodyStumps has PERSONALLY offended many of us (including me) with his behavior. Note how you say "Covenant" instead of a name. Noctus only comes up once while BloodyStumps comes up 3 times. You say Covenant "warred" 420, but Covenant had the war for BloodyStumps. If Bloody had left the nation, Covenant wouldn't have done anything against it. Bloody is an *******. End of story.

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 3:55 PM



Im not saying he is right im just saying that if he is wrong so is all thos who caused trouble towards him too. Its about the big picture. He might have hurt u and others but if we hold that against him we have to hold against thse in covenant and other places that gave him a hard time to act that way. Again i repeat my point that this means we have to say both sides r at fault and must both leave each other alone

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 1:04 PM

umm ive been personally involved with him for a time and the only hassle i found was from others. i admit his posts r annoying but like said this kicked off from childish name calling and escalated. and both sides never put an end to it. They are both idiotic for keeping up such a fight and causing misery to so many including maybe u and countless others! both sides ppl who didnt deserve such treatment got it. So isnt it fair to ask since both sides have bloodguilt that they both stop being at each others throats so that all can enjoy game. That is only fair for all of us. Whoever we like more or less or even hate as it can turn out( i dont hate anyone ppl r cool here) in terms of cold facts of right and wrong both have screwed up and should stop before other ppl get miserable from it

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 4:04 PM

umm ive been personally involved with him for a time and the only hassle i found was from others. i admit his posts r annoying but like said this kicked off from childish name calling and escalated. and both sides never put an end to it. They are both idiotic for keeping up such a fight and causing misery to so many including maybe u and countless others! both sides ppl who didnt deserve such treatment got it. So isnt it fair to ask since both sides have bloodguilt that they both stop being at each others throats so that all can enjoy game. That is only fair for all of us. Whoever we like more or less or even hate as it can turn out( i dont hate anyone ppl r cool here) in terms of cold facts of right and wrong both have screwed up and should stop before other ppl get miserable from it

AMxPM - 11/6/2009 1:09 PM


So you admit that you ARE bias and side with Bloody. The problem is that you're grouping yourself with Bloody. You CAN'T do that. That's like saying a passerby that got shot in a gang war was part of the gang. Any hate from Covenant was directed solely at Bloody. If bloody sincerely apologized, they wold have stopped. Everyone has e-peen, Bloody's was just exceptionally bad.

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 4:20 PM


Not rlly the 420 posts were annoying as hell. but its cruel to war a nation to death too. Its cruel for bloody to drain guild points i rlly cant see any side that is more justified right now because both of them get so childish e.g. i remember noctus telling me stumps dog was called cha cha and stumps said it was called ashen and noctus said stumps likes to lie compulsively. ROFL ITS A STUPID DOG! do u see my point they r childish and will argue about anything. Best thing to do is for both sides to leave each other alone. none can justify themselves more than the other. SO no im not biased im simply stating facts so that ppl stop being 1 sided and tell both to start playing the game and stop making hell for others!

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 4:41 PM

i havent suffered and no it wasnt a joke. And you r biased for saying it. I dont care who is the better human being in this instance. Both noctus and stumps have their cases and they r both childish when they want to be. U cannot say the original "hitler fanboy" taunt wasnt childish just the same as u cannot say draining guild points isnt childish either. like said all i say is u cant say 1 is right or better over the other. they BOTH need to stop so this situation doesnt happen again.
if u dont like someone dont talk to them simple as. Lets cease childish fighting. If i speak for anti war or ban and peace how can u find fault??? If u wish for more suffering go ahead i just want impartial happy gaming

blazein1 - 11/6/2009 5:07 PM

:/ lol you not being bias? you even said he insulted you

that cha cha thing sounds like was ment be more then joke
from stuff i heard on forum nuctus sounds like the bigger douche that just happens be more popular
bloody sounds like hes super annoying
its like the dude said it just comes down to which one you think is lesser evil

AMxPM - 11/6/2009 5:13 PM


I never said I wasn't. I have had my own little "history" with Bloody and have never been able to like him in the least bit since. However, I still believe I can make a fair decision based on my discretion.

Judging from your post, you aren't on Thebes. Good day.

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 2:21 PM

HAHA thats so funny! tbh if u dont want peace then u cant have good intentions. This thread has been put up to say for once that both ppl might actually be at fault instead of just 1. Thats the diff and that we need both to settle down for real peace. If ud rather have war then you are biased in your own way. SO i ask them both to please not cause anymore trouble. at this stage its not about who started what who was the bigger idiot or even who u like more its about a game we all enjoy. And when it comes down to it we can let go a silly argument which is what it was. So please people lets take it as a game and just have fun instead of bullying people with it or making an excuse. SPEECH OVER

Arrowslinger - 11/6/2009 5:21 PM

HAHA thats so funny! tbh if u dont want peace then u cant have good intentions. This thread has been put up to say for once that both ppl might actually be at fault instead of just 1. Thats the diff and that we need both to settle down for real peace. If ud rather have war then you are biased in your own way. SO i ask them both to please not cause anymore trouble. at this stage its not about who started what who was the bigger idiot or even who u like more its about a game we all enjoy. And when it comes down to it we can let go a silly argument which is what it was. So please people lets take it as a game and just have fun instead of bullying people with it or making an excuse. SPEECH OVER