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Calm
Posted 11/2/2009 8:53 AM (#277836)
Subject: Advice me, best PvP main/formation


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I haven't played for 3months and since then 2patches were released. I'm a (not too far from lv100) Staff main. At star my idea was to get my main up to lv100 and restart with Saw, but at lv80'ish i realized that would be too troublesome and boring. The truth is that now im not motivated at all to continue playing with my old Main, so im pondering about a new one.

But like i said i don't play for a long time now, so what would be the best main for PvP? Saw keeps being a wall (good hp, magic and physical def) plus nice atk (physical and AoE), worth about only being possible to use after get another main at lv100? I see that Ministrel may be troublesome.. and with a Saw merc avaliable maybe would be a waste of time restart with a Saw main. What u think?

Abou the formation, i would like to hear ur opinion about (not the ''best'' one because such thing doesnt exist) one formation which would be very good, excellent at PvP and not bad for PvE. Seems that SawMerc can be used for Awake so does Monk still being a Must in pvp team? Also i guess that with the new mercs the rate of Staff mercs dropped, so would Exo continue being a ''obligation'' for PvP (it used to be at 95% + of formations) ?

Sorry if i'm being annoying but these new mercs really puzzled me and i can't get any idea till i start watching PvP duels again with those mercs being used.

Edited by Calm 11/2/2009 8:56 AM
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LBuffalo
Posted 11/2/2009 9:22 AM (#277839 - in reply to #277836)
Subject: Re: Advice me, best PvP main/formation



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the "best" main r axe ofc, since one just single handly won the pm titan XD
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Locksley
Posted 11/2/2009 7:26 PM (#278049 - in reply to #277836)
Subject: Re: Advice me, best PvP main/formation



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monk still must. the saw merc has crap MP, low mdef, and cannot use HG, and does not give u passive heal to main. exo is still good for speedcast, esp for staff main.
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-Aristona-
Posted 11/3/2009 1:42 AM (#278247 - in reply to #277836)
Subject: RE: Advice me, best PvP main/formation



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Calm - 11/2/2009 8:53 AM

I haven't played for 3months and since then 2patches were released. I'm a (not too far from lv100) Staff main. At star my idea was to get my main up to lv100 and restart with Saw, but at lv80'ish i realized that would be too troublesome and boring. The truth is that now im not motivated at all to continue playing with my old Main, so im pondering about a new one.

But like i said i don't play for a long time now, so what would be the best main for PvP? Saw keeps being a wall (good hp, magic and physical def) plus nice atk (physical and AoE), worth about only being possible to use after get another main at lv100? I see that Ministrel may be troublesome.. and with a Saw merc avaliable maybe would be a waste of time restart with a Saw main. What u think?

Abou the formation, i would like to hear ur opinion about (not the ''best'' one because such thing doesnt exist) one formation which would be very good, excellent at PvP and not bad for PvE. Seems that SawMerc can be used for Awake so does Monk still being a Must in pvp team? Also i guess that with the new mercs the rate of Staff mercs dropped, so would Exo continue being a ''obligation'' for PvP (it used to be at 95% + of formations) ?

Sorry if i'm being annoying but these new mercs really puzzled me and i can't get any idea till i start watching PvP duels again with those mercs being used.


I am Saw level 118 myself, and I never suggest saw mains. It may be good in PVE, but lacks in PVP. Just an upgraded version of Sword mains. Chainsaw blade does almost no damage in PVP. Also, Storm Blast isn't a great skill.

Shaman, Bow and Musician mains are better than Saw, and Saw is better than the rest.

My current formation is;

Beast Trainer - Saw Main - Spartan
Janissary - Exorcist - Inventor
Monk - Prophet - Northern Viking

My mercenaries are between level 105-110 and I am always on Div 1. Never had problems in PVP and PVE.

On topic; There is no good formation. Every formation can be deadly if you use them well. It depends if you are a good player or not.

For mercenaries; "One monk" is a must. I use only 1 Monk, and I can do everything that a double monk can do with scrolling on correct times. If my monk is sealed, I do not even guard with him. I just save his AP by doing skip. Many people does normal attack with him while he is sealed and wasted 100 AP. Wrong. 100 AP is more valuable than doing 1500 damage on enemy.

So, get a monk and use awakening "everytime your monk gets combo 1", and use awakening "everytime your mercenaries gets 2 combo". You will have enough AP to do that. When you get sealed, or get many dots on you, just pop 2 purification same time to clean yourself.

Also, an Exorcist is a must to keep pressure on enemy magicians, especially Oracle and Monks. Northern Viking is a must in my opinion for spiking a front row mercenary, or to keep stun/combo pressure on front row. Inventor is a must too in my opinion, because it is the best PVP mercenary.

For the rest of my mercenaries, I use my Janissary to keep stun pressure/damage. (Cannoneer is better than Janissary, but I like his damages/ability to hit air) Beast Trainer is a decent tank. He is not good in PVP, but very useful in PVE. I keep it because it is my fist C class mercenary and I like him. He and keeps stun pressure on front row, does pretty good damage with a good Axe equipped. He have a very good AP gain and Beast Summon is useful when it is casted at the end of match. Also, he is good on both magical defense/physical defense and often does combo.

I got my Prophet for PVE and spike, because he heals all my melee mercenaries (have 6 in total) for 2400 every turn. It is better than Oracle. He also increases my melee's accuracy and damage. Which is very good for making pressure in front. (Sometimes I just spike and kill ranged/magician mains after the seal if they are standing in front row. If he goes back, Prophet does very good damage on them if they are ranged mains. Pretty much, as long as you keep pressure on ranged main with your Prophet, your enemy will heal him with Oracle, and usually use Awakening on him. So, you will make him lose forget about his front row, and lose 2 turns just by helping main.

As for Spartan, I do not need to explain it. He is clearly the best mercenary you can ever get. War Cry is a great skill, and he is a great damage dealer.

That is how I play. I decide my playing style depending on enemy's formation.

So, my suggestion would be something similar to this formation. You can get Elementalist instead of Janissary. I don't know much about Paganini. Seems like she is only useful for hallucination and cleaning monks from seals. Maybe also for taking off enemy scrolls. Her damage isn't good, and dies pretty quick after several Archer hits.

You can get Punisher for pve, his aoe damage is decent. However, I seriously don't think he is any good in PVP. Another monk will be better, because a monk gets like 80 AP, and Exorcist gives him like 30 more, while Punisher gets something like 60.
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Calm
Posted 11/4/2009 4:50 PM (#278884 - in reply to #277836)
Subject: RE: Advice me, best PvP main/formation


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Thx for posting. I appreciate ur opinions and feedback.
Personally i still thinking about Saw main, specially with these new mercs would be good restart the game, learning things from the beggining. But main reason is that im bored..
Maybe i just try a Musician Main, seeing that im Staff is not much different. I always wanted to be musician :P i would like to try one with a spiked damage formation, perhaps even along with musician merc.
Guess that ill get 5more lvls (lv95 atm) and think more seriously about this.
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bodyweb2004
Posted 11/11/2009 9:00 AM (#281821 - in reply to #277836)
Subject: Re: Advice me, best PvP main/formation



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Maniac is not the best PvP main if that's what u r looking for. Although he's the best PvE one, along with the musician. If I were to start over, I would go for a musi main.
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Tusi
Posted 11/11/2009 10:26 AM (#281856 - in reply to #277836)
Subject: Re: Advice me, best PvP main/formation


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pure pvp = bow
pve + pvp = staff, musi
then theres canno + gun, theyre universal, altho theyre not exeptionalyl got any anything.
meelee mians fail, dont get oen :D
saw main in pvp will get raped by timer dot, lots of hp -10% every turn = saw diez
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